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		joshu on April 3, 2009 \| parent \| context \| favorite \| on: The problems with url shorteners Both of those have gotten shut down in various locations at various times.

endtime on April 3, 2009 [–]

Sure, shut down...but they've never published/made available politically censored content.

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