Hacker Newsnew | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submitlogin

> Especially because a full-color display uses numerous full-page refreshes to achieve all colours which are really jarring.

Can confirm - I have a Kaleido based e-reader and whilst I do like that book covers are in colour, scrolling through even a small library is jank central due to the multiple refreshes.



Worth noting that Kaleido and ACeP are very different.

Kaleido is effectively an RGB LCD in front of an E-Ink screen - you get color at 1/3 the resolution of black and white, but "normal" refresh rates. This accounts for all of the multi-color e-ink readers on the market now.

AcEP is 4 pigments per cell, so you get full resolution and better saturation and contrast, but terrible refresh rates. Last I saw for ACeP it was something like 15 seconds. Presumably this 2nd generation is much faster, but I haven't seen anything that actually says how fast.

https://www.eink.com/color-technology.html


> you get color at 1/3 the resolution of black and white, but "normal" refresh rates.

It might be "normal" refresh rates but it takes multiple refreshes to generate colour output compared with mono. It is an awful janky experience.


Not with Kaleido, it's a normal monochrome eink screen underneath. The color filter on top changes in something like 1ms, it's invisibly fast. ACeP and the other black/white/(red|yellow) "color" inks do require multiple cycles though, and yeah - wildly unusable for reading purposes.


I have a Pocketbook Colour which uses E Ink Kaleido and it takes multiple refreshes to correctly display colours - there's 3 or 4 flashes on the coloured areas.

Go to about 3:57 on this video and watch the book covers flash on and off as they do multiple refreshes - easier at 0.25x but still visible in real time.

https://goodereader.com/blog/product/pocketbook-color-e-read...




Guidelines | FAQ | Lists | API | Security | Legal | Apply to YC | Contact

Search: